General Hand Plane notes, sizes, threads and misc info

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I started a document on one of my computers for notes I keep on plane information. My issue is I have several work laptops, a few personal laptops and travel a lot so keeping the notes in one place is a challenge. I figured this way, I could get to them from anywhere, including my phone when looking at buying a plane, and maybe others would find the information useful as well. I’ll try to break up the information into logical units as separate blogs in this series.

Some General Stanley timeline information.

Kidney shaped hole in lever caps introduced in 1933

Adjustment frog screw started in 1910. Stopped on some during WWII.

Sargent plane sizes are here

Stanley Plane Iron Sizes
Plane — Iron Width
No. 1 — 1 1/4”
No. 2 — 1 5/8”
No. 3 — 1 3/4”
No. 5 1/4” — 1 3/4”
No. 4 — 2”
No. 4 1/2 — 2 1/4”
No. 5 — 2”
No. 5 1/2 — 2 1/4”
No. 6 — 2 3/8”
No. 7 — 2 3/8”
No. 8 — 2 5/8”

Overall Stanley Plane Sizes (measured off my set. Slight differences may occur according to type, the sizes changed from time to time)
Plane — Length – Width
No. 1 — 5 3/4″ x 1 1/2″
No. 2 — 7 5/8” x 1 15/16”
No. 3 — 8 3/4” x 2 1/8”
No. 5 1/4” — 11 7/16” x 2 1/8”
No. 4 — 9 3/8” x 2 3/8”
No. 4 1/2 — 10 15/16” x 2 13/16”
No. 5 — 14” x 2 7/16”
No. 5 1/2 — 15 1/8” x 3”
No. 6 — 17 11/16” x 2 7/8”
No. 7 — 21 15/16” x 2 7/8”
No. 8 — 23 7/8” x 3 1/8”

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Thread sizes

Stanley used 12-20 threads for the tote and knob rods. The screw at the front of the tote and the frog screws are also of this

Thread size and pitch.
Stanley
12-20 threads for the tote and knob rods. Rod needed is #8 or 13/64” drill rod.
Frog Screw 12-20
Lever Cap Screw 9/32-24
Adjuster Screw 9/32 Left hand

The rod diameter is 7/32 with a 20 tpi thread. A 1/4” rod diameter is usually associated with 20 tpi (1/4-20) and a 7/32 rod.

Stanley #78  Fence rod and thread.  the thread is 10/28

If your trying to decipher Stanley thread sizes you need these 2 pdf’s

http://www.tttg.org.au/Content/Stanley%20Planes%20and%20Screw%20Threads%20-%20Part%201.pdf

http://www.tttg.org.au/Content/Stanley%20Planes%20and%20Screw%20Threads%20-%20Part%202.pdf

You can buy a tap and dye set here, http://stjamesbaytoolco.com/ look for 12/20 Tap And Die Set $35.00.

I had a question about weights of different type planes, so I weighed a few I had. I thought it would be interesting. Here is what I found. The are all Bailey #4’s of different vintages.
type weight
17 3pds 6.4 ozs
13 3pds 7.2 ozs
15 3pds 5.2 ozs
11 3pds 5.2ozs
11 3pds 9.2ozs
10 3pds 7.2 ozs
6 3pds 4.4 ozs
4 3pds 5.8ozs
4 3pds 5.2ozs

If there are 2 of the same type, it just means I had 2 handy.

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When Record went into plane production in the early 1930s they copied Stanley planes of the period, right down to the threads.

Here are the sizes from Recordcollector’s site:
http://www.recordhandplanes.com/parts-and-sizes.html

Cap Iron screw : 5/16” 18tpi BSW (I believe this is the only standard BSW thread on benchplanes)
Frog screws : 7/32” 20tpi Whitworth;
Tote & Knob bolts : 7/32” 20tpi Whitworth;
Tote Toe screw : 7/32” 20tpi Whitworth;
Frog Adjusting Plate screw : 7/32” 24tpi Whitworth;
Frog Adjusting screw : 1/4” 24tpi American/Unified;
Brass Adjusting nut : 9/32” 24tpi American/Unified (left-hand thread);
Lever Cap screw : 9/32” 24tpi American/Unified.

T5 Side Handle 1/4” 20 tpi BSW For later models. Earlier models are supposed to be 7/32” 20tpi Whitworth

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Tap and Die
St. James Bay Tool Company 12-20 Tap and Die Set.
eBay Seller Nicobie sells 12-20 Taps and Dies.
1/4-20 BSW – I located on eBay from a UK merchant.
Victor Machinery Exchange 12-20 Tap
Victor Machinery Exchange 12-20 Die

Stanley Parts

And if you don’t see it here, Check out WayneC’s blog as well.

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